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| 'hereb' has traditionally been translated in two very different ways. Essentially, in broad strokes, it is understood to mean firstly a state of ruin or devastation, and secondly a weapon that causes such a state. | 'hereb' has traditionally been translated in two very different ways. Essentially, in broad strokes, it is understood to mean firstly a state of ruin or devastation, and secondly a weapon that causes such a state. |
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| This is a very clear example of some of the problems with the traditional approach. Possibly due to an overly contextual approach of traditional interpretation which then drove translation, the general concept of "ruin" has become highly de-standardized, taking on a range of nuances that is unsupported etymologically, and may not necessarily even be supported contextually. | 'hereb' is a very clear example of some of the problems with the traditional approach. Possibly due to an overly contextual approach of traditional interpretation which then drove translation, the general concept of "ruin" has become highly de-standardized, taking on a range of nuances that is unsupported etymologically, and may not necessarily even be supported contextually. |
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| Below are some examples of the types of translations we typically find, with associated "Strong Number" entries taken from Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, an index created in 1890 without the advantage of computer assisted technologies such as databases and search tools. | Below are some examples of the types of translations we typically find, with associated "Strong Number" entries taken from Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, an index created in 1890 which attempted to manually collate over three hundred thousand words of a dead language without the advantage of computer assisted technologies such as databases and search tools. |
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| *Strongnumber 2717 - dried, parched, desolate, devastated, laid waste (42 instances) | *Strongnumber 2717 - dried, parched, desolate, devastated, laid waste (42 instances) |
| *Strongnumber 2720 - dry, desolate, waste (8 instances) | *Strongnumber 2720 - dry, desolate, waste (8 instances) |
| *Strongnumber 2721 - dry, drought, heat, ruin, waste (16 instances) | *Strongnumber 2721 - dry, drought, heat, ruin, waste (16 instances) |
| *Strongnumber 2722 - "Horeb" ostensibly as the proper name of a specific place. (17 instances) | *Strongnumber 2722 - "Horeb"; ostensibly as the proper name of a specific place. (17 instances) |
| *Strongnumber 2723 - waste, desolate, ruin, desert (42 instances) | *Strongnumber 2723 - waste, desolate, ruin, desert (42 instances) |
| *Strongnumber 2724 - dry, dry ground (8 instances) | *Strongnumber 2724 - dry, dry ground (8 instances) |
| Several more sensible divisions could be proposed. For example: | Several more sensible divisions could be proposed. For example: |
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| *The 413 instances assigned to Strongnumber 2719 indeed do tend to refer to an object that can be used as a weapon that can caused damage. What is not clear is the type of weapon. Although "sword" is the common interpretation, it might just as well refer to a dirk or cudgel. One clear exception within this subset is Exodus 20:25 which very clearly referrences a tool used to cut or shape stone, most likely a chisel. | *The 413 instances assigned to Strongnumber 2719 indeed do tend to refer to an object that can be used as a weapon that can caused damage. What is not clear is the type of weapon. Although "sword" is the common interpretation, it might just as well refer to any other weapon. Considering the fact that the [[Hyberi]] were primarily nomadic pastoralists, it would more likely be a staff, or maybe a dirk or cudgel. One clear exception within this subset is Exodus 20:25 which very clearly references a tool used to cut or shape stone, most likely a chisel. |
| *There is a group that may or may not refer specifically to "dryness" (dried, parched, drought, dry ground), but these instances are spread across the Strongnumbers (2717, 2720, 2721, 2723, 2724, 2725) | *There is a group that may or may not refer specifically to "dryness" (dried, parched, drought, dry ground), but these instances are spread across the Strongnumbers (2717, 2720, 2721, 2723, 2724, 2725) |
| *Another group seems to indicate a state of ruin, devastation, or destruction, presumably brought about by either intent or neglect. Again, these instances are spread across the Strongnumbers (2717, 2720, 2721, 2723, 2724, 2725) | *Another group seems to indicate a state of ruin, devastation, or destruction, presumably brought about by either intent or neglect. Again, these instances are spread across the Strongnumbers (2717, 2720, 2721, 2723, 2724, 2725) |
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| This leaves us with only one other interpretation needed - that of the object that caused the ruin - "a weapon". | This leaves us with only one other interpretation needed - that of the object that caused the ruin - "a weapon". |
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| | ====ke pi hereb==== |
| | There is a commonly recurring phrase [[ke]] [[pi]] [[hereb]], which seems to mean "struck teeth weapon" and is commonly interpreted as "by the edge of the sword". FIXME This bears further investigation. |
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| | For further investigation |
